tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3023805782808412230.post3890436432477041994..comments2024-03-09T15:46:44.638+01:00Comments on For what they were... we are: Mitochondrial lineages from MyanmarMajuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12369840391933337204noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3023805782808412230.post-30921742718589855762014-02-19T17:30:45.914+01:002014-02-19T17:30:45.914+01:00I am an indian from Burma; I get most of these; I ...I am an indian from Burma; I get most of these; I was just confused about Bamars going to Vietnam. Our understanding is that Bamars got sstuck in the central burma and Lower Irawaddy. If anything, Vietnam and Mynmar are separated by multiple mountain ranges and river valleys.Kodhambohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06223497162089820128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3023805782808412230.post-47288969588279326192014-02-19T00:49:32.740+01:002014-02-19T00:49:32.740+01:00If you want to expand your mind towards a deeper u...If you want to expand your mind towards a deeper understanding of the population of Asia (and by extension all Earth except Africa) by our species, I would suggest the following introductory entries (from this blog and hence always my opinion, of course):<br /><br />→ http://forwhattheywereweare.blogspot.com/2013/06/synthesis-of-early-colonization-of-asia.html (basic scheme of how things went some 100-50,000 years ago after leaving Africa and Arabia)<br /><br />→ http://forwhattheywereweare.blogspot.com/2011/01/zomia-and-rivers-of-se-asia.html (discussing the geography of SE Asia and the most likely routes that early H. Sapiens took when they arrived to that part of the world - in the last map it seems "natural" that Myanmar and Vietnam were two centers, with a third one in the now semi-insular Sundaland, i.e. Malaysia and West Indonesia)<br /><br />→ http://forwhattheywereweare.blogspot.com/search/label/Eurasian%20colonization (for all kind of entries relative to the colonization of Eurasia+ or rather Asia+, just browse and pick what you like, if anything at all)<br />Majuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369840391933337204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3023805782808412230.post-87685659945811418492014-02-19T00:35:18.295+01:002014-02-19T00:35:18.295+01:00I understand that they mean in a much broader peri...I understand that they mean in a much broader period of time, including much of the Prehistory, since long before modern ethnicities existed as we know them. <br /><br />My interpretation is rather that (roughly) Vietnam and Myanmar were very possibly the two more important areas in the initial (and maybe also later) population of SE Asia by Homo sapiens and by extension of all East Asia and Australasia. If you try to understand modern populations and their inferred history from a merely historical approach, you will unavoidably miss a lot. Written history is just 2-4 thousand years old, the actual (pre-)history of Homo sapiens in Asia is 100,000 years old. So if it was a Kinder egg, you'd be discussing the thin foil package while they'd be actually talking of the toy and the chocolate egg. <br /><br />Notice also that they are talking of Myanmar and not Yunnan. While the two countries have obvious relations since "always", Yunnan is much better surveyed and known and still Myanmar has shown to have even more and distinctive basal diversity in a single exiles' survey. We are not talking of Tibeto-Burman "migrations" (conquests) but about the populations who have been living in the area long long before even Tibeto-Burman existed as such (who now in most cases speak Tibeto-Burman and identify themselves as such but once their ancestors were something else, possibly Austroasiatic in the Neolithic and who knows before that). Majuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369840391933337204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3023805782808412230.post-15979502781179502562014-02-18T23:58:08.974+01:002014-02-18T23:58:08.974+01:00I an trying to understand this line "Migratio...I an trying to understand this line "Migration analyses of Myanmar and four Southeast Asian regions displayed a vivid exchange of genetic material between the countries and demonstrated a strong outwards migration of Myanmar to all analyzed neighboring regions (for details see Additional file 4: Table S4)."<br /><br />The Bamar relocated to Central Burma in the 7-8th century from Yunnan province. However, Laos, Thailand and Vietnam have been popiulated even before 1st century BC. Is it possible Supplemental Table S4 talks about ancient Yunnanite population relocating to Laos, Vietnam and Central Burma at various times?Kodhambohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06223497162089820128noreply@blogger.com